We know what’s best for you

Jeffrey Goldberg know what ails Israel and tells us in Israel’s America Problem:

When I spoke to Mr. Olmert a few days after his meeting with the Conference of Presidents, he made only brief mention of his Diaspora antagonists; he said that certain American Jews he would not name have been “investing a lot of money trying to overthrow the government of Israel.” But he was expansive, and persuasive, on the Zionist need for a Palestinian state. Without a Palestine — a viable, territorially contiguous Palestine — Arabs under Israeli control will, in the not-distant future, outnumber the country’s Jews.“We now have the Palestinians running an Algeria-style campaign against Israel, but what I fear is that they will try to run a South Africa-type campaign against us,” he said. If this happens, and worldwide sanctions are imposed as they were against the white-minority government, “the state of Israel is finished,” Mr. Olmert said in an earlier interview. This is why he, and his mentor, former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, turned so fiercely against the Jewish settlement movement, which has entangled Israel unnecessarily in the lives of West Bank Palestinians. Once, men like Mr. Sharon and Mr. Olmert saw the settlers as the vanguards of Zionism; today, the settlements are seen, properly, as the forerunner of a binational state. In other words, as the end of Israel as a Jewish-majority democracy.

Except what this ignores is that every effort to separate Israel from the Palestinians has succeeded in strengthening those who deny Israel’s right to exist.

First of all, now that Israel has cut all ties with Gaza the demographic problem – if it exists – has been put off some. Israel is not responsible for Gaza. But the “disengagement hasn’t helped Israel. More of Israel is subject to frequent rocket fire. Israel is condemned for defending its citizens and Hamas has been strengthened. Exactly what has Israel gained by this set of consequences?

Israel has long ago ceded control of Bethlehem, Jericho, Tulkarm, Qalqilya, Jenin, Ramallah, Nablus and most of Hebron to the PA. Ceding control of those cities to the PA led to the increase in terror in 1996 and made the “Aqsa intifada” possible. Again, it’s hard to see why Israel is responsible for these areas anymore. That the Palestinians have failed to create a functioning government is not Israel’s responsibility.

So all this talk about “apartheid” Israel is not out of concern for Israel, but rather to blackmail Israel into ceding territory to its enemies, not just in the name of a chimeric “peace” but also to save its soul; regardless of the cost to its body.

PM Olmert certainly is being dramatic when he accuses some American Jews of seeking to “overthrow” the Israeli government. American Jews have been involved in Israeli politics for a long. time. Nor would I be surprised if Mr. Olmert also had plenty of support from American Jews in one fashion or another. (I don’t believe that it’s legal for foreigners to donate directly to Israeli campaigns, so this help – financial and otherwise – is not necessarily direct. But then PM Olmert is no doubt familiar with what’s legal and what isn’t.)

Goldberg goes on to show his sophisticated grasp of the issues facing Israel:

This is an existentially unhealthy state of affairs. I am not wishing that the next president be hostile to Israel, God forbid. But what Israel needs is an American president who not only helps defend it against the existential threat posed by Iran and Islamic fundamentalism, but helps it to come to grips with the existential threat from within. A pro-Israel president today would be one who prods the Jewish state — publicly, continuously and vociferously — to create conditions on the West Bank that would allow for the birth of a moderate Palestinian state. Most American Jewish leaders are opposed, not without reason, to negotiations with Hamas, but if the moderates aren’t strengthened, Hamas will be the only party left.And the best way to bring about the birth of a Palestinian state is to reverse — not merely halt, but reverse — the West Bank settlement project. The dismantling of settlements is the one step that would buttress the dwindling band of Palestinian moderates in their struggle against the fundamentalists of Hamas.

So why won’t American leaders push Israel publicly? Or, more to the point, why do presidential candidates dance so delicately around this question? The answer is obvious: The leadership of the organized American Jewish community has allowed the partisans of settlement to conflate support for the colonization of the West Bank with support for Israel itself. John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, in their polemical work “The Israel Lobby,” have it wrong: They argue, unpersuasively, that American support for Israel hurts America. It doesn’t. But unthinking American support does hurt Israel.

Since 1993 Israel has been openly (longer still if one counts the preliminary negotiations conducted in contravention to Israeli law at the time) involved in a “peace process” with the Palestinians. Since that time we have seen Fatah strengthened, then Hamas. (Hezbollah too, if indirectly.) We saw more and more terror result from Israeli concessions until Israel fought back in 2002 and reduced the terrorist infrastructure created by the “moderate” Fatah movement.

The position of the Israeli government now is quite a far cry from the Israeli government of twenty years ago. What was then a vision of the far left wing group, Peace Now, is now the mainstream view in Israel. No Israeli government will refuse to negotiate with Fatah even though the group never disavowed the terror that was to be a precondition for its achieving legitimacy. And it’s hard to say that this softening of Israel’s position has made it more secure or accepted.

On the Palestinian side we’ve seen no softening of positions. Oh sure Arafat would say just enough to be awarded, legitimacy, army and money, but his actions never comported with hits professed declarations of accepting Israel.

No, the single biggest impediment to a Palestinian state is the Palestinian rejection of the Jewish one and the attendant terror. Mr. Goldberg’s mantra about settlements has been repeated for decades, but what happened when Israel abandoned Gaza? (Asked and answered above.)

Palestinian nationalism isn’t about self determination or freedom. It’s about destruction. The failure of the Palestinians to create a functioning society to live in peace beside Israel has nothing to do with a lack of contiguity but a lack of interest in building such a society.

The unthinking supporters of Israel, as Goldberg would have it, were right about Arafat. They were right about the Palestinian commitment to peace.

Finally there’s another question that Goldberg begs. He accuses AIPAC of not pushing Israel to dismantle settlements. But every action for peace that Israel has engaged in, AIPAC has been supportive. AIPAC supported Oslo. AIPAC supported the Israeli withdrawal from southern Lebanon. AIPAC supported disengagement. Exactly how has AIPAC’s agenda differed from Goldberg’s over the past fifteen years is a mystery.

The people of Aipac and the Conference of Presidents are well meaning, and their work in strengthening the overall relationship between America and Israel has ensured them a place in the world to come. But what’s needed now is a radical rethinking of what it means to be pro-Israel. Barack Obama and John McCain, the likely presidential nominees, are smart, analytical men who understand the manifold threats Israel faces 60 years after its founding. They should be able to talk, in blunt terms, about the full range of dangers faced by Israel, including the danger Israel has brought upon itself.But this won’t happen until AIPAC and the leadership of the American Jewish community allow it to happen.

So Goldberg considers it important for AIPAC to lecture Israel, to tell Israel what it must do. (Even if the past fifteen years have shown those policies to be counterproductive to peace.) Goldberg’s honest about his arrogance: I know what’s better for you than you do, and AIPAC ought to understand that too. I don’t know if that makes him pro-Israel. (In fact I dispute it.) It does make him (and his J-Street allies) a smug know-it-all.

Related thought (with different targets) at YidWithLid.

Crossposted on Soccer Dad.

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9 Responses to We know what’s best for you

  1. Maybe it would help to remind Jeffrey Goldberg and those of like mind about the Eleventh Commandment: “Thou shalt not kid thyself.”

    (N.B.: Despite the identical last names, he and I are not related!)

  2. Anon says:

    It is a lot like cooking a frog.

    If you put it immediately into boiling
    water it knows something is wrong and
    reacts violently.

    If you put it into luke-warm water
    and slowly raise the temperature,
    it just kind of sits there and dies.

    Now, I’ve never tried cooking a frog.

    But I do pay attention to the so-called
    news.

    Israel has elected herself a
    government that seemingly likes to
    be slow-cooked. It’s a democracy
    so I guess, by looking at the policies
    of her elected leaders, Israel would
    like herself to be destroyed.

    I just hope I don’t end up feeling the
    same way about the United States on
    November 5 2008.

  3. Michael Lonie says:

    I agree Anon.

    How about this idea? To satisfy all the nitwits who accuse Israel of “Apartheid” (which means they don’t know what the term actually means) here is a possible policy for Israel to follow that will use their own ideas of Israel giving up everything to the Arabs. Israel withdraws from the territories just as it did from Gaza, while keeping the area of East Jerusalem. It unilaterally declares the PA a legal state and recognizes it as such, over both the West Bank and Gaza. Fatah and Hamas will inevitably commit terrorist acts of war against Israel.

    At that point Israel declares a formal state of war with the independent PA government, citing the UN Charter’s clause about self-defense if attacked. Zahal goes in and cleans out all the terrorists, PA security forces, and PA government, as well as Hamas in Gaza, as quickly as possible and ignoring all bleats about civilian casualties. The palestinian Arabs wanted war to the knife, and have been killing Jewish civilians for decades in pursuit of it. Let them have what they want.

    Israel then tells the local tribes and town governments that they are now in charge. Israel maintains military observation posts at the borders with Egypt and Jordan but no Jewish settlements in the territories. The newly empowered tribal sheikhs and town governments will be informed in no uncertain terms that complicity in acts of terrorism or other acts of war against Israel, even simply looking the other way rather than stopping them, will get them expelled from the land. It will be up to them to keep the peace, however they want to do it. They are not part of Israel and not citizens of Israel, and may not travel freely in Israel. Don’t like that? Tough, that’s what you get for wanting the genocidal war with Israel. Forget about democracy for the Palestinian Arabs, they are not worthy of it.

    Yeah, it would give suckers for idiocy like Goldberg conniption fits. But it does 1) establish an independent state for the Palestinian Arabs (a second one I should say) which all the bedwetters seem to think is more desirable than the security of Israel and its Jewish population and, 2) gets rid of the terrorists in the only way possible, by killing them, with the justification (whether the UN acknowledges it or not) of the UN Charter.

  4. Gary Rosen says:

    “A pro-Israel president today would be one who prods the Jewish state — publicly, continuously and vociferously — to create conditions on the West Bank that would allow for the birth of a moderate Palestinian state.”

    I have to apologize in advance for the language, but I can’t think of a better way to put it – what an absolute crock of stinking horseshit. What this is all about is trying to protray Obama as Israel’s “friend” while he takes the Jimmy Carter position on the Middle East – it’s all the fault of the Joooos, Arabs don’t have to take responsibility for anything, ever.

  5. soccer dad says:

    Michael,

    I remember in the 80’s a prominent Peace Now activist in Baltimore advocating something like that. After all he wrote if the Palestinians commit terror from their sovereign territory who would blame Israel for striking back.

    It would be a high risk/possible high reward proposition. But you’d need an Israeli government willing (and able) to take the risk of ceding the territory and acting firmly in response to the inevitable terrorism.

    Gary:

    Yes, I wish there were a more delicate way to put it too. But there isn’t.

  6. Tatterdemalian says:

    “After all he wrote if the Palestinians commit terror from their sovereign territory who would blame Israel for striking back.”

    Now that Israel has freed Gaza Strip from their domination and made it a sovreign territory of the Palestinian people, does the world still blame Israel when it strikes back against the terror committed from there?

    So much for that idea. I really don’t think it would be any different if they set the West Bank free either. The world would just keep blaming Israel for the attacks being launched on Tel Aviv.

  7. Herschel says:

    This reminds me of all the arm chair quarterbacks watching a football game, or other sporting event. They are all experts and know more then the coach and players on the field that have been playing the game since childhood.

    The fans easily know more then the athletes and coaches that have dedicated their adult lives to this sport, and have made millions of dollars because of their previous success.

    And now some shlimeil named Goldberg comes out with a theory that can solve one of the worlds oldest problems, if we only listen to him! What a #%^^$% moron.

    If you want to begin to solve the Israel/Pal problem, start by forcing the Pals to stop indoctrinating their population with the constant hate Israel, and hate the Jews propaganda coming from all of their media and schools.

    The Pals will only negotiate a lasting peace if they respect the Jewish nation, by either education, or, by force.

  8. Michael Lonie says:

    Very true Herschel. I have simply given up on the Palis doing anything of the sort.

    As for the world not condemning Israel for defending itself against such acts of war, that was typical Peace Now delusion. I would expect most of the world to scream bloody murder. My point was simply that Israel could then point to the UN Charter itself and tell the screamers to eff off. Personally, I no longer care if the collection of thugs and grifters that makes up “world opinion” denounces Israel (or the USA for that matter). I am more inclined to think that the louder they scream, the more right the actions that caused their discomfort are.

    I don’t insist that I know better than the Israelis do. I merely suggest possible things. In this case it is a rope-a-dope strategy. Yes it would need an Israel government able and willing to do the job and take the risk. What is the alternative to doing something inevitably more or less violent against the Palis? Sinking further into the mire of victimization and demoralization?

  9. Gary Rosen says:

    “I am not wishing that the next president be hostile to Israel, God forbid.” Right. And Obama is Israel’s best friend. And Carter is not antisemitic.

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